The Disney Vacation Club filed the master declaration for the Copper Creek Villas and Cabins. The waterfront cabins are 2-bedroom units (similar to the bungalows at the Polynesian), but look to be less points per night than the bungalows (details are near the bottom of this post).
Just as we reported earlier, besides the waterfront cabins, the south wing of the main Wilderness Lodge building will be converted to DVC rooms, including studios, 1-bedroom, 2-bedroom, and 3-bedroom Grand Villas. Both dedicated and lock-off units are available.
With the filing of this master declaration, DVC is very close to begin selling points for CCV.
Some floor plans are shown below.
Cascade Cabin
Here is a comparison of the plans for the cabins as compared to the plans for the bungalows at the Polynesian Resort.
Studio
1-bedroom
2-bedroom
Grand Villa
The maximum reallocation point values show the studios and 1-bedroom units may require the same number of points per night as the original Villas at the Wilderness Lodge (now called Boulder Ridge Villas) – 18 points for a studio and 36 points for a 1-bedroom. The information below shows a 2-bedroom is 46 points per night, a Grand Villa is 122 points, while a cabin is 115 points.
How long after this filing does it usually take for them to start selling points?
For the Polynesian, sales began 5 days after the filing. For the Grand Floridian, it was about a month and a half.
Also, when you say the South wing, does that mean half of the hotel is being converted into DVC?
Yes.
WOW! The rooms look relatively small in comparison to other DVC villas. At least the studios and 1 bedrooms
Actually, they seem on par with recent DVC rooms.
That’s all well and good but I’m a long time owner at the Villas at Wilderness Lodge (now called Boulder Ridge Villas) and am not happy about all these changes. It’s bad enough that the construction has disrupted my last several vacations and taken away the peace and privacy of this once serene resort. Now, I’ll have to fight the crowds for everything from meals at the pool bar to the boats and buses to the parks. And, of course, will be priced out of the Copper Creek cabins and villas. All that and the new timeshares are separate from my ownership so will be considered non-home resort reservations with a 7 month reservation window (if I hit the lottery and can actually afford them) instead of the 11 month home resort window. It’s hard enough to find availability at 11 months. Time to sell and go back to my roots at Fort Wilderness me thinks…Oh, and I miss the quiet pool formerly known as Hidden Springs pool. Unhappy DVC owner.
I couldn’t agree with you more. We always loved the Villas at Wilderness Lodge because it was quiet. Loved the villa pool.
They got rid of the quiet pool by the Villas ?
Yes, the quiet pool was replaced with the Boulder Ridge Cove pool.
So sad to ruin such a beautiful resort. We sold are last set of points for Wilderness lodge the end of 2015…couldn’t take what they have done and are doing there anymore…We actually sold our points to Animal Kingdom and Bay Lake tower which we only used at the Lodge in the beginning of 2015…so upset they have ruined our happy place altogether.. we use to go 3 times a year…
I also agree with all of your points. The serenity of the woods is gone…
I’m new to DVC, so please forgive me. But if most of the new DVC units are former hotel rooms, do you think it will really add that many more people? Obviously the cabins do. Just wondering
While the cabins will add folks, Disney did expand amenities – including the Boulder Ridge Cove pool and Geyser Point Bar & Grill.
Including the addition of the cabins, overall the capacity of the resort is actually significantly *reduced* by- 352 occupants. This is because each One Bedroom Villa (4 person capacity) displaces two hotel rooms (8 person capacity total), each Two Bedroom Villa (8 person capacity) replaces 3 hotels rooms (12 person capacity), and each Three Bedroom Grand Villa (12 person capacity) replaces 5 hotel rooms (20 person capacity). In addition to this, the Boulder Creek Pool will be larger than the previous pool it replaced, and a much larger Quick Service restaurant and bar has been added in addition to Roaring Fork. So, overall, the resort will be much *less* crowded.
What is an alternate studio?
During the conversion of the existing lodge, Disney had to configure a few strange space configurations – thus the alternate studios. There are a limited number of these.
I wonder if they will be a separate booking category?
No idea at this point.
Just as it is with every change involving anything Disney, the negative whining begins! Those who don’t like change, expansion, and “new” really shouldn’t invest with Disney. Progress and new innovation is a fundamental given – as Walt wanted it. The mission is not to keep the old as it is just for you, it’s to capture the fancy and include more families in the adventure. Have you seen Disney Springs lately? If you miss the small familiarity and low crowds of Downtown Disney – that’s a sign you’ve lost the Disney heart.
The transformation of Disney Springs from our visits March 2016 to December 2016 was amazing. During our January 2017 2 week stay, we visited Disney Springs 7 times. Nights with all the lights are awesome!
Couldn’t disagree with you more…the improvements at Disney Springs are welcome…and if I choose to go there I can. We bought into the Villas at Wilderness lodge because it was quiet and a place to escape the hectic pace of the parks in the afternoon and early evening. Now the trees are gone..the atmosphere is gone and the whole character of the resort has changed. Worst of all I didn’t get a vote. If I wanted all that stuff I would have bought at BLT, Poly or BWV.
Well said, looking forward to the expanded amenities! Wilderness Villa owners since 2001
Any idea how many points per day for a studio?
It looks to be similar to the older villas at the Wilderness Lodge – a yearly average of 18 points per night for a studio (so likely 15-28 on a seasonal point chart).
The 3 bedrooms villa are going to belong to the new part right I own at the lodge so I am taking it the 3 bedroom will be 7 months out instead of 11 am I correct
Yes, the 2-br cabins and the 3-br Grand Villas are part of the new Copper Creek DVC resort. Owners at the Villas at the Wilderness Lodge (the original DVC resort at the Wilderness Lodge, now called Boulder Ridge Villas) may book the cabins and Grand Villas at the 7-month mark – just like every other DVC member who doesn’t own at Copper Creek.
website is up. https://disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/destinations/list/florida/copper-creek-villas-and-cabins/
Yes, and we summarized the key information at https://dvcinfo.com/copper-creek-cost-points-chart-more-revealed/
Does anyone know the breakdown of rooms now on the South Wing… I’m particularly interested in the 3 BR GV. How many and their views. Thanks!
The second chart on this page has the counts. There will only be 4 Grand Villas. https://dvcinfo.com/resort-information/resorts-ranked-size-date/